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Episode 006 · 53 min · October 21, 2026Does it really matter how we got the answer?AI is producing answers we can’t fully explain—but what happens to us when we outsource the thinking? Sebastien and Eric unpack how AI models and agents work, debate whether writing is a skill or a way of thinking, and explore the promise of an endlessly patient AI mentor—along with the question of whose goals it serves.Listen to this episode ↗Episode 005 · 8 min · October 19, 2026Special: Raising Minds — A Thought ExperimentRaising Minds is a spoken-word science-fiction story about raising intelligence rather than simply programming it. It imagines communities nurturing living biological minds—beings that depend on our care, then grow beyond us. Could they learn to care for us by being cared for?Listen to this episode ↗Episode 004 · 65 min · October 8, 2026Human minds, artificial minds, and alignmentSebastien and Eric explore what human and artificial minds have in common, from reinforcement learning to confident mistakes. They discuss alignment, raising children alongside AI, and how scarcity and abundance shape our expectations.Listen to this episode ↗Episode 003 · 23 min · September 24, 2026The biological Tamagotchi (that could die for real) and the coal age of AIAfter a demonstration of living neurons interacting with Doom, Sebastien and Eric imagine a biological Tamagotchi—one that could die for real. They compare today's AI boom with the coal age of the industrial revolution and ask what progress means when computing uses living cells.Listen to this episode ↗Episode 002 · 27 min · September 24, 2026What makes a mind?A second conversation about lab-grown neurons, digital intelligence, consciousness, and whether new kinds of minds change what it means to be human.Listen to this episode ↗Pilot 001 · 30 min · September 23, 2026The first conversation.Robot arborists, consciousness, and finding a place in an AI-shaped world. Our first unedited recording. A starting point for figuring out what this show could become.Listen to this episode ↗